Nothing to add that probably hasn't been said. We play this one 1v1 all the time and have for what seems like forever. Despite the RA/MH combo we find things quite competitive and the rounds generally fun and very interesting. One of the all-time greats IMO and has apparently been around since the early, early days.
It is a perfect example of a map that can be salvaged with D!ABLO's map editor (lvlworld.com/mod/id:48) though, since the layout is really good, with plenty of vertical combat.
a whole round:
www.youtube.com/watch
some Gauntlet-fun :-)
www.youtube.com/watch
Once, I was at a lanparty, playin' q3, and I asked to play some custom maps, and the two maps my buds knew of were Addiction and Coriolis Storm, so that must be saying something of how widely known and respected this map is.
God that was an obfuscated sentence.
My advice: get it, learn it, play it, love it.
if you don't own this one, download it now!
case close
"too vertical"
lol!!!
You just proved yourself to be unqualified to judge this level. It's made for advanced players that can actually look up AND down. Imagine that.
And I doubt anybody cares how many maps you have. The fact that you've downloaded a bunch of maps doesn't magically improve your credibility. Especially when your criticism of this one can't go deeper than "it sucks" and "it's too vertical" so, sorry. Move along. You're just not ready.
i have 236 maps of quake3!
and 300+ for quake2
more than 200+ for UNReal and UT
and near 100 maps for Half life
as u see i have enough data
to know if a map rocks or it sucks!
READ again!!
236 in quake3...
i almost reviewed near 80 percent of all..
im not the best player in quake3
or quake2 but i know that i play
VERY well! maybe a 7-8 of 10 !
the addiction map IS Boring !!
graphics are cool .. but
the gameplay here is Poor and period.
the map is too vertical!,
if near everybody here like this map! ok ,, but i dont!
the most incredible to me is that this map is in the top 10
now is #2 ... BS.
I have played more than 50 maps
that are more playable with
better graphics than
adicted!
The Designer of addiction can
be a master level designer! but as i said seems like it only make maps and dont play it..
wanna know an example of a great map ..
look for ->REPTILe1
THAT is a GOOD ONE! play it
then later look what u think about addict!
could be better if this site
start a section of
top 10 maps in graphics
to 10 in playability
and so on..
im sure the author Is a
Great level designer..
maybe could be Master! someday
but seems to me.. he never
played Quake2 or QUake3
because lack of conectivity
and playability!
any camper can win easily here
because of the no exit places
the map have!
conectivity and gameplay is the key! I really like those old
quake2 maps like q2dm1,q2dm2,
q2dm5,q2dm8 where u can see near all time every player in the map! an open areas to strafe in combat or rocket jump!
My advice to him is to
ask himself why people
like so much the standar q2 maps! ? because Gameplay there is fast! :)
like so much this Crappy map!
IT SUCKS!!!
i downloaded it because it get
nice scores in the reviews near
10!
but i will give u a 5 !!
the game playability here in
0% !!! conection 0%
grafics %85 the grafics its ok
the only thing this maps have is
has to offer is good textures and architecture!
seems like an Unfinished map!
there are cooridors with no exit! item placement really
bad! Need more Work!
I love the nice little hanging roots or whatever they are...
It's all about the gameplay with this map even though i think it looks pretty sweet too. Don't hesitate to grab this map!
score: 9
living proof that a great map doesn't need a custom texture pack six megs big. A perfect 10 this is, and one of my absolute favorites
that doesn't happen
when you're playing a newbie than maybe
but a skilled player is not easily cut off from the armor.
I agree that mappers usually think about the looks ,even when the gameplay is lacking, it matters that the level looks good.
But fancy eye candy is not all. You want an example ?
check q3jdm8a :> a simple "NO CURVE!!" level which plays really good. Addict is an exception, it looks good and plays good :)
The engine can do so much beautiful stuff, so levelmakers turned mapping into a real art. But lots of maps here are for eye-pleasure, not for gameplay. That would do great for SP, but not for dm. I dont need beauty in DM. I need gamplay and speed.
Again sad. Comone ! Create a MOD with real SP. Enough of that OSP/GX-MOD or TF-like.
I now, Its hell of a work to make a good map ( I map a bit). U managed to make a great map in terms of architecture and design, but it is SO unbalanced.
Great Idea to place MH and RA in room with only one exit (and even worse its controlled from above)... oh and add some rockets there!
YArmor is also close, so run from one to another . The other player has NO CHANCE AT ALLL!! Belive me. The match will end like 100 / below 1. The map is unplayable for tourney.
Better test maps with good players, before final item placement. Make it better.
I've had many fun fraggin' hours playing this one. The
teleporter texture was kinda dumb, though. Too easy
to miss it if you didn't know it was there.
I've had many fun fraggin' hours playing this one. The
teleporter texture was kinda dumb, though. Too easy
to miss it if you didn't know it was there.
This is niceness. People may think its too easy to dominate from above but no, not really, not unless u r playing a bunch of newbs. And finally a map that is good and departs from the classic themes of q3.. the only other being Japan Castles IMO. Also great fun as a instagib map... 8 outa 10
Happy fraggin! Octovus
Right weapons in the right places.
No real camping spots, gotta keep movin'.
Brilliant no matter how many players you have
Now for the review. Good for up to 4 maybe 5 ppl only I thought. With more people than that I just becomes caos in my opinion.
Excellent 1on1. Nowhere to hide!
Worth the download and I can't wait to see what peej is going to come up with next. It can only get better. Keep up the good work.
It definately has the best environment/atmosphere I've seen in any map so far.
Ok back to mapping "The Pit" My q3a map.
but i didn't see better
My opinion, 9.0 out of 10.
-Kurupt (The Rail Whore)
"He told me basically to fuck-myself."
is a total lie, i said nothing of the sort. to quite myself, what i did say is:
"i have no obligation to anyone, that's complete rubbish. i map because i enjoy it and for no other reason, saying that i owe it to people to sensor everything i say is just rubbish."
and i stand by this 100%
i'm really fed up with this and i think everyone else is. give it a rest already.
But at the same time listen to Peej..You could learn a lot from him (I know I can)
Think about this: Would you learn or get better if people didn't critique your maps.
Remember this: I've been through what your going through, and yes feelings were hurt but I got over it. And you know what? I got better. I'm not the greatest mapper yet, but I'm getting there one map at a time.
Goto: www.mapfinger.com and look for Gonad (That's me) And you'll see screenshots of maps I have made. It will make you feel better. Like I said I'm not great yet but I'm not terrible either.
You say this is your first map...Not bad! Better than my first attempt.
So take some constructive criticism and learn from what people have to say.
And Peej... get with the PG (that's ProGram)...
If anyone here took the time to do something, and someone who has no-basis for judgements made such, and didn't back it up, wouldn't you be mad?
I don't think the level is Gawd's Gift. BUT I know I put some thought into it, I know it isn't a waste of time.
I told Peej he has a responsibility as an "old timer" to watch what he says, since people take his opinion to heart (as Gonad has illustraited). He told me basically to fuck-myself.
So, I know hold Peej's opinion in the HIGHEST REGARD. ;)
"looks ok in the screenie but infact is a badly planned, badly put together waste of time."
Waste of time is not a piece of constructive critism. Nor is it "the truth".
And Gonad: Years of experience, do not make him an authority or even correct. Just gives him "years of experience."
I wanted reviews, not sweeping untrue statements like "Waste of Time".
Anyway, the only thing that matters is the work, so maybe we should just settle this by having a little contest.
Peej?
you submitted your map to LvL so that you'd get honist opinions from people about your map. that's all i said, my honist opinion, whether ppl listen is down to them.
i'm sorry if i touched a nerve, but i can't lie just to make you feel better. afterall it was you who submitted your map.
(if you wanna discuss this further, create a thread on the qboard and i'll be happy to argue with u)
It LOOKS awesome! One of the best user-maps I've seen.
Now, since this is based upon a previous map, Peej has had a few years to think about layout and what-not, but even with this time, he hasn't fixed a few flow problems.
Also, theres a corridoor where armor shards are placed in front of lights. Nice, except, if you back into one of those holes with the lights and get stuck.
Overall, a very good map, with only a few issues (like being able to frag-steal VERY EASILY).
I have to mark it down though, since Peej is just a dickhead who likes to beat-up on newbie-mappers with his big-bad-veteran-mapper self.
It gets a 7. (an 8 if Peej weren't a dick).
And Suck me peins (i'm sure you meant penis!) Shut the fuck up. You don't know a good map when you see it! Have you released anything? Lets see you do better!!!
Again very nice work Peej :-)
Keep 'em comin' Peej
email: jsemkiw@hotmail.com
thank you!
the the texture scheme is about 30 times better than id's shitty base theme.
Captain textures:
it's bcuz of yer card. i'm guessing you have a voodoo2 or something else which doesn't support textures above 256x256.
oh, and cool cow can go suck my peins
Great job =)
The best CTF map in my collection currently is Japanese castles, but i'm sure there are just as good ones out there too.
26 Jan 2000 20:22
cool cow -ip # 142.165.5.142
26 Jan 2000 20:19
-- sooo smart cool cow, one more post like that and i'll ban you
dont get me wrong i love getting mega kills once in a while but not every time i grab the grenade launcher
Give us more Peej!!!
i'm trying to support Addict as much as possible, that is get it on as many servers as i can and tell people where these servers are. if you see it on a server, let me know, and head to www.peej.co.uk/addict.htm for the latest server list.
I liked that teleporter texture!!
I agree with Rokscott on the teleportor gripe; it looks too simplistic.
The shotgun room seems a bit bland in relation to the rest of the map; a little tweaking is needed imho, but it doesn't detract much from my overall liking of this map.
I like the fog instead of water. I can imagine the constant splashing becoming annoying in such an easily accessible area.
Give us more! =)
Well deserved of course, seeing and playing it gives me the thirst... might have to learn this Q3 thing after all...
(fancy a trip to Oxford to teach me????)
I can't wait to see this on a server.
Despite of this I likes the map very much.
(The fog is simply cool..)
Only one minor gripe, I did'nt like the Q1 type teleport texture. It looks a bit too bland.
There is a fantastic sense of place and I really love the industrial feel. Superb layout, fine lighting and solid texturing. What more can I say, do not miss this map.
GREAT STUFF!!
love it its a MUST HAVE!!!
i would love to see this in a Q3 server with real ppl instead of bots
great map
10/10
Keep on PJ!
Damn cool map Peej.
GEt THIS n0W
Back to playing it :)
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