no it kinda does dude. "it felt very heavy in details" q3dm1-forever is loaded with details and thats from 99. "combination with the domination of vertical combat" what the actual fuck??? are you even blathering about. So u dont like vertical combat, that makes the map bad because you dont like vertical maps? But yet i see you voted nearly a 5 and 5 (PERFECTION btw) for some very vertical play maps and some other maps that are just total trash. I'm not going to call them out here ppl can check your vote rating history for that. So your statement here this is to vertical confuses me. And then, "and black color" its to fucking black. WOW. OK. Thx for the super deep thought there! You know I was playin q3dm17 one day and all of a sudden the thought crossed my mind: this is to fucking black! time to whip out the ole testbigbox..."The deep muddy water in the center of the map also seemed to be quite unpleasant" WEEEeeeeeeLL, alrighty then. You know a map is absolutely NO good when the water's muddy. That's fucking brilliant! Oh and drumroll....."I gave to this map such a vote because that's how I felt I would rate it, basing on the impression it gave me." Yeah....next time I want to know if a map has to many ups, left turns, muddy water, or is to fucking black I'll ask you ok! "By this vote, I was just expressing my opinion" No shit! And I expressed mine. Look there's no way to sugarcoat this you are an idiot for saying what you did. You said somethin idiotic. You're an idiot for saying what you did. It was aimed at what you said not you as a person. Stating that it's your opinion doesn't excuse yourself from saying something idiotic. That's not how it works. Now I am pretty blunt, I admit, and I could have said something like "not very smart" BUT, you did hang a 1.5 (publicly) on this buddy. Not me. Now a 1.5 isn't a real nice rating either is it? It's pretty scathing. You were just giving your opinion. Just getting the files in the right place in the pk3 qualifies a 1.5 dude. Voting this map at 1.5 is clearly idiotic. I'm not saying you're dumb but based on your vote and definitely based on your comments your vote is IN MY opinion, is definitely idiotic. Now if you don't like my opinion that's fine! I don't care! Now, if it would have been something like, textures missing, bots dont work, item placement is bad etc.... OK, i could understand that. But, that's not what you did, and you have some very crappy reasons.

@Tig I rated this map as 1.5 because I thought that it felt very heavy in details, and in combination with the domination of vertical combat and black color, it made an impression of the atmosphere to be really uncomfortable. The deep muddy water in the center of the map also seemed to be quite unpleasant to me. I gave to this map such a vote because that's how I felt I would rate it, basing on the impression it gave me. By this vote, I was just expressing my opinion, and just because I didn't like the map whilst other people did, doesn't mean that I'm an idiot. @LotsofPain

@Geniraul - While I agree with your statement, I have no idea why you made.

@Tig Having a different opinion about a map than most people doesn't make me an idiot.

not the best ctf map ever, but I did think this map was very cool. I was going to rate about a 3 but I saw some idiot rate it at 1.5 and its obviously not worth of that rating so I rated it a 4.

Why? :(
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One of the best CTF maps ever made as far as I'm concerned. Fun as hell to play, keep up the great work!

The map is obscure an looks very isolated! Also looks like a Half-Life 2-ish map. Great work and atmosphere, FKD!