Thanks I didn't have a link for it. This very cool Mod can become very addicting to say the least. By the way, maybe you or someone can help me with this, I have been stumped for a very long time on why I can't use the editor in certain maps such as Japanc_ta (Japanese Castles TA) or fi_ctf1m (Flatiron). I get the error "couldn't find spawn point". I've tried going into the bsp and changing a team spawn into "info_player_deathmatch", didn't work. Aside from the latter, I did happen to solve this problem for example with mpteam4 (scornforge)... after saving a edited map in ICE - the map won't load up. Simply go into the ICE folder and find your saved .map, using a text editor, go through and find all the items that have "" and put anything in between such as "123", now you can play your edited map. Also, when editing a CTF map be sure and leave at least one DM "spawn" so you can get back into it. Another thing with CTF, where you place the DM "spawn(s)" is where the teleporter will randomly send you. Lastly, be sure in your config you have... seta ice_autoload "1" AND seta ice_disable "0". Hope this helps those that use ICE. Thanks to the creators of ICE and long live Q3!