try it!
That said, I really enjoyed this level! It comes from the Charon school of mapping with tight hallways and atriums, but as xfoo hinted it takes that rather to the extreme. More space might have been nice, but at least the author is consistent. Also in agreement with xfoo over the texturing; a nice environment of hazy blue metal is greatly enhanced by the ferns and grass textures/models, to the extent that it feels almost like a walk in an elven forest (ok I'm going extreme here, but a wild place that has been "civilized", maybe ancient ruins? I'll shut up, suffice it to say I liked it). Gameplay is pretty good. The upper levels don't offer much reason to stay however, only the portion near the stairs gets real attention; the bots don't even understand the lift 3/4 of the time (I believe this is a recognised problem).
Sweet looks, pretty good IP, not at all bad gameplay, but stinted flow...hit or miss, but I give it an 8.
-Octovus
1 - It continues to boggle my mind on how mappers insist on making tiny ass hallways with tiny ass doors. An extra 32 units would of really helped in some spots.
2- Didn't really like how there are only 2 ways up from the lower half of the map.
3- I like what was done with the arch. and textures.
Eversor was the only one who complained.
Imaginary, please. I respect your position in the community and I am very happy to see people submitting reviews (I've sent it 9 or so myself to date, it may be more but its no less...the reviewer details lost one is mine).
And it's not some exclusive club. I know you're trying to say that, because you comment he can send one in - and that's what he said he was going to do! Anyone who really wants to review a certain map can send it in, and it doesn't matter who the heck they are, there's been tons of reviewers contributing as of late. It's not as if d00m5suck4 (I hate l33t names :-p) was disagreeing with you anyways, you weren't the reviewer...I just don't understand why you went so on the defensive?
Anyways, I'll probably be playing this tonight, comments then.
-Octovus
"A bot being good with a weapon in a certain map is absolutely no justification to have the weapon in the map."
Ok, good point, but
"A weapon placed in a map should be useful in some situations but should not be dominant."
and that is precisely what I think the railgun is.
I admit, while playing the first 40 frags in the map I went "Dang, why the railgun in this narrow map?"
Then after a few 100 frags more, both 1 vs. 1 and 4 FFA, even 6FFA (!) with 3 humans and 3 bots I think that the railgun is a pretty good addition.
And, to come back to my previous statement, this was shown by a bot to me, alone I would probably not have realized this.
"I churned out this review after a matter of hours after getting the map."
I had this maps for weeks (27th of September) and -I repeat myself- was planning to do a review after I noticed it being in the queue. I played this map over and over again to get a proper impression, therefore I was too late to hand it in. :(
"If you think you can give a fair review, go to the Map queue and help out."
I actually might do this, but I might be too slow again and besides that I am no mapper and I really do not notice "the fern limb that goes through a +25 health ball" (no offense intended!) unless it hinders the gameplay.
A bot being good with a weapon in a certain map is absolutely no justification to have the weapon in the map.
In an ideal competitive world, a weapon placed in a map should be useful in some situations but should not be dominant.
No one had this map 4 months before reviewing it; as a matter of fact, I churned out this review after a matter of hours after getting the map. The reviewers here don't magically get all these maps and have the time to handle them. If you think you can give a fair review, go to the Map queue and help out.
Brad said:
"the Rail Gun is probably not needed"
huh? Have you played against Klesk or Xaero? Even Doom kicks a55 with the Rail Gun.
My only complaint about the map is that there are too many items for 1:1, it is perfect for a 4 player FFA.
When I noticed that this great map was still in the queue, I wanted to do a review, too, but a few days later, the review(s) were already submitted.
An which word is missing in this sentence:
"the platform on the bottom level for the should have held the MH"
Download it :)
CU
d00m5uck4
greetz@chaos