This is a very interesting, atmospheric map. Lots of distinct areas with very good navigation / interconnection, and some vertical gameplay too.

I always feel like maps with this level of architectural detail ought to have a secret or two tucked away. This is particularly true for the scene here, where the section above and to the right of the staircase in the center wraps around behind the red glowing windows. There's an empty spot that would be perfect for a powerup.

The trigger opening the path to the MH is a nice touch, and I almost snaked it away from my opponent when he opened the door. It probably adds quite a bit with a number of players.

I don't understand the inclusion of a mirror though.

All-in-all a really, really interesting and fun map. Too big for 1v1, but probably a real treat with a group. A nice find ...25.5 years late! :D

The Frazetta paintings on the walls in one of the hallways really accentuate the style of this map. There is a trigger to get the MH, although the bots do tend to congregate in this area, I never noticed them work the trigger in order to obtain it. They do, however try pushing their way in and head directly to the area surrounding the mega health from spawn points, rarely straying far from its keep. It is a shame that there is a flaw like this but otherwise the level gets highest marks. Lots of detail and atmosphere. Playing against human opponents most anyone will find little not to like.

This is my all time favorite map by Kit Carson. I always include it in my LAN map rotation and I frequently load it up to brawl some bots. Great atmosphere, excellent flow to the game play and well thought out weapon placements are all present here. If you grab any of Kit Carson's maps I'd suggest you get this one first. It's a keeper for sure.

HUGE map !! I love the mirrored cross set in masonry, nice touch. The dark corners set the MOOD. EVIL. Must load up with 7+ players or you may be bored.

i used all the tricks...why the bots are so stupids?

I sometimes play this while running the Corkscrew mod. This seems to stop the bots from congregating in front of the MH (since it's removed under Corkscrew).

It plays really well under Corkscrew! The wide open spaces and long hallways seem custom made for RG-only battles. And Corkscrew's coloured railtrails really light up the map.

Sorry, this is turning into more of a "praise Corkscrew" fest.

Anyway, great map, just a pity it doesn't play as well on SP DM.

this map(1.27 friendly) beats q3dm6, great map man!!!

A grate map kit! I like the big open feeling to it and vertical action. There are not very many open feeling maps that are also multi-level.the bots are a real problem though. just like in the other map.they try to go though the close door again and again to get the item. our sever and LAN is often low traffic so we need bots for big maps.

Didn't get to play this the first time I downloaded it due to the shader being unfriendly to 1.27. But NGI Arena 1 was awsome so I have so doubt this one will be as well.. Kit, don't stop!

Very good teamplay.

8 for map quality

8 for "net playabilty"

0 for bot file

they congregate in front of the MH and nowhere else

Did anyone else notice this?

Sure:) grid is not a prob....

Same map every time. Only bigger. And the grid doesn't seem a prob for Kit.

Unless this has some killer flaw that I've missed so far, it's undeniably one of the best three or four user-made big team DM maps. Good job.

Good gameplay.....yes good map!

totally roks....the art is awesome and it is totally killer running through the place fraggin

Very very good!

KIT CARSON RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

This is better than q3ngiarena1!!!

It is one of the best maps that i have ever played!!