There's a lot going on with this map. Some good, some not so good. It's one of the more creative maps from the early, early days of q3.

There's a strange confusion of doors and doorways. As you can see in the picture, some are open, other have doors that open/close. And there are so.many.of.them...it does seem and sound like the sound of the doors is constant. Fewer actual doors and some more openness between areas would probably help this map quite a bit.

There's a decent amount of vertical gameplay in some of the bigger rooms, but other areas are strangely cramped or have seemingly uninteresting areas / dead ends. Two teleporters send you to the top of open rooms to get either the MH or the Haste. I like this as you don't really know what you're getting into when you enter. There's also a horizontal jumppad / launcher that sends you to the RA (which is easy to miss...modern game physics?) which can be perilous and also really funny when skirmishes happen nearby.

It's a pretty large map and didn't suit our 1v1 match very well, though we did enjoy it. It's manageable for 2, but probably really shines with 5-6 or even more.

A pleasant but seemingly forgotten map. Give it a shot!

Bots... ok? ...What are you on about Steinecke? Every bot got stuck at the elevators when i played it. Ruins an otherwise excellent map too. Pity.

Planetquake isn't really free. Advertisments, undercover-marketing, selling information...etc.

PlanetQuake is free and is great. Wow you unapreciative fuck. Because of idiots like you

web sights will eventually cost money for us to browse there, dont look a giftquake in the mouth.

The Reason No-one can get on ftp servers is cos hl pacth 1.1.0.0 is out with tfc 1.5 and cs beta 6.5 it took me half an hour to get on counterstrike.net ffs

Nice to see a change from that repetitive gothic scene. Kewl map, keep it up.

This author has potential, and I am looking forward for more maps from TwitchFactor. I like the tech theme a lot and it was executed well in this map. Good item placement, but the gameflow was not as good as it should have been for some reason. Very fun for the tech theme lovers...8/10.

Holy god, i couldnt stand all the doors and red lights and stuff. 2 minutes into the game, its in the recycle bin. Sorry.

I like the vertical aspect but it seems to be a bit lacking in flow. I give it a 7 based on the the only thing that matters, gameplay.

I dont like the clash of different textures .I'm not really a techno fan though. Others may find it amusing.

Bots... ok. Looks somehow very ID-like. Not my cup of tea... but maybe yours! Have a try!

There are now two places were you can get the file:

US: www.twitchfactor.c...z/overunder.zip

NL: www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/overunder.zip

I guess everyone could grab it from my site...

www.twitchfactor.c...z/overunder.zip

Hey, Tigger-on, why don't you just move this site to another host? I hear you complaining about PQ (with good cause) almost every week (it seems), but you could fairly easily move to a different server. Why not? PQ is not the be-all-end-all of Quake hosts like some people seem to think it is.

gibworld has notbeen anmy problem at all, in the laeast, never for me. but I don't get thousands of visitors a day either (hits).

WEll, TF, I'm glad you mixed the sets, my thoughts are the same, tho I've been traumatized for doing this, so I may never mix sets again . . .AAAAGH . . .j/k.

Have yet to take a look at your map.

Yes I am starting to think everyone should post an alternate Dl local because this seems to happening more and more. GRRRRRR!

Hey, TwitchFactor, do you have an alternate download location?

look at that download meter fly!!

this sux.. Try to test your links bfore posting it dude, nothing more annoying then a link that wont work.

Hey guys, give the GSN a break, think of all teh sites hammering the poor servers for the halflife patch.

And they "claim" to have fixed the FTP problem. But well see :)

Glad to see a review of my level.

Sad to see that people are having problems getting it, and that the comments section has turned into a techsupport forum.

Hey Tig, thanks for putting the level up... I can't wait to get feedback from everyone.

Glad to see someone not berate me for "mixing" texture sets. To me, if the texture fits, why not use, no matter what the filename says.

This level addresses a lot of the problems people had to with Maximum Chaos (my first map), like; too dark and cramped.

It also has quite a bit of doors, which bother some people. Unfortunetly, without the doors, too much was being drawn and it ran like a pig (do pigs run slowly?).

My goal with every map is to;

1. Learn more/perfect my craft.

1. Experiment with some slightly new idea.

1. Keep it playble (~30fps) on an "average" machine (~300mhz/TNT or Voodoo2).

If I make a level that runs great on just my machine, it'll get no server time.

Telefragged seem to be a lot better atm and they do support asp if you need it. I moved my GSN site there some time ago because I got pissed off too much

lol @ RiO

I run another GSN site and I must agree with y'all. We've had four FTP troubles in the last Week: 3 with FTP and 1 with cdrom.com.

Microsoft has better Tech Support right now. And that's saying something.

Yep.. i've emailed the GSN tech support - if you wish to email them yourself the address is - techsupport@gamespynetwork.com

be sure to let them know exactly how this sort crap makes you feel (ie, not being able to grab the files from the ftp servers), cause i'm damn pissed at them!

Hell ! What is wrong with the links all the fucking time I visit this site (which rocks btw!) ?! Is it really that hard to get an ordinary xoom or geocities account ? If the Gamespy Crew wasn't able to solve the big big Problems we encounter from the beginning of the year on, I seriously doubt that they will ever solve them.

Hell, I've tried to grab this map for about 5 god damn hours and I just had to release myself and let everybody know how pissed I am right now :-)

I didn't want to offend anyone here working on this cool site. Just make sure you get hosted somewhere else !

I also checked your own ftp server at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/planetquake/lvl/m-r/. Its not there. What went wrong. BTW this is my favourite map site. its gr8.

this link doesnt work for everybody! plz make sure links work from beginning on!

The download links aren't working for me. I'm just getting the "unable to open page" or whatever it says error with both of them (actually the fileplanet one opens until the download is supposed to start, then i get the blank page).

Oh, btw, thanks for the link to the mapman program Tig. That thing is a dream come true. :)