This is a fantastic looking remake of dm17, and with the different weapons and slight variations in navigation, it's its own reimagining of the classic we all know.

We've played a number of rounds on this map. I never fare well and I think I might finally understand why. I always try to play this like it's dm17 without the rail, and it just isn't. There's very little risk in heading out to the lightning gun, and at the same time, not the greatest benefit from having it.

There are maps you need to really learn how to play, and perhaps I just haven't "learned" this one yet.

Aesthetically it's absolutely fantastic looking.

Visually amazing remake but this map NEEDS the railgun.
PS: Could not enter the secret area! Tried so many times...

I only have two words for this map: Baby Cthulhu!
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Excellent remake of Q3DM17! Definitely the best one out of the many poor remakes out there, not including ones with barely any edits to the original map. The change from a space map to a Quake 1 gothic style one along with its own tweaks makes this a must have!

No Railgun is a failure on this map. But still you will be having a good fraging time ;)

I'm not a big fan with Q3 remakes especially with Q3DM17 but this map has changed my opinion on them by far! The item placement was good but I wasn't quite sure why the Lightning gun was placed on the far end platform. I think it should of been the Railgun to be honest but apart from that the map contains everything a good remake should have. Not gonna lie, I'm loving the remixed theme instead of a space map its an ancient based theme to completely turn things around. I Love that idea!

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Great stuff! Would play again.

I don't know about you guys, but this level brought me flashbacks of the Dwarf stronghold under the misty mountains in the game The Hobbit (2003 video game) in the level Over Hill and Under Hill. Only if you have played that game would any of that make sense.
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Never really liked remakes of original Q3A maps, but this is one hell of an exception. I love this map completely. Playing with bots is so much fun, and the secret is so hilarious. XD

A flawless remake. Get it on your hard drive immediately! Two thumbs up, sst13!
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Thanks Tig for putting up the demo! Sorry for being late but I forgot to visit the site lately.

FistMarine sent in a short demo of how to reach the secret area - grab it from: lvlworld.com/level...yard-secret.zip

This info has also been added to the review.

I agree with sst13... I have got to the secret without noclip too, you must have full health and armor (both together!), because the acidic liquid is too agressive to be inside without proper shielding. Also you must find straight way to the chamber or the acid will kill you even with the right stats... If the acid has been less agressive, it would be a lot easier...

thx dONKEY for the review!

There are 2 ways to enter the secret room:
Easy mode with spectator. (You can't reach the last chamber) Or hard mode with a lot of health/armor, and you need to be a very fast diver.
But it's definitly possible without noclip! :)

If there ever was a worthwhile remake, this would have to be it! I wish the video showed the rooms under the main platforms...

I agree, that's a very nice map! Not to mention it was done by sst13 so it has to be PERFECT! I would give 5/5 if I was registered again. :P

This map is SWEET.

Like q1dm17, and it's working.

Very nice translation of Q3 features to the Quake logic. Everything looks terrific and not forced at all, despite the fantastic setting.

Technically speaking, more than a space map this is a sea map, with the sea coming FULL OF QUAKE.

Nice touches: The light buoys, the cyclopean chains, the leaves... But they do not distract at all, something very hard to accomplish, and the map runs perfect.

I did not find any secret place yet, besides the LG trap (but with that buttons to activate I doubt the LG trap is a secret!)

With the Q2 railgun veto in mind, the only thing I miss is the plasma gun... and maybe some "ancient one" rising from the ocean from time to time.

Great map!
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