the first time I think I have ever seen lens flare used: nice touch. Some real creative potential but just lacking in professional polish and some questionable item placement.

This map is perfect for the power-weapons mod!

all you people bitch alot.

im on dial up, map is worth the wait. dont play with the music for better frames, and LikE the music for this map. all you guys gotta stop being biacthes and be a man geeks.

thanks gutterman for a wonderfull map, keep up the good work, and tell us where to download (puff puff) the pk.3 file without the music. it would be nice but i like the music so much(love it) i wont even download the other version i know there are some biatches out there that would appreciate it.

HARDCORE MOTHERFUCKER

pent.1 200mhz

The Fish, nice rant, but game demo != map.

You could have at least posted the comment with a different name, so that people wouldn't know that you were the composer of said music. heh.

Large file size ? Yes, but blame the Quake people for not supporting MP3's! How stupid is that? When you only have wavs to work with then you have to expect large downloads. We are in an age of 70mb demos being normal. And have you heard this music though? I've heard alot of stuff - make it a point to play and try and immerse myself into the game and music together, just as the author wanted. This cool map with the kickass music does it for me ! Congratulations Gutterland !

uhh i play with music, AND I LIKE IT DAMMIT!! ;)

Ignoring the large file size, this is a very fun map. Sure, it isn't the most attractive map in the world, but it is f00king fun to play. Get it if you play quake for fun, not for spooging at graphics every few seconds...

Hey Guys...

Thanks for the feedback.... Unfortunately, your agro over the filesize is misplaced... I DID send 2 versions to planetquake, I at only 1.9 MB without music for those with slow downloads or tone deaf or whatever :-), however , it seems to have gotten lost in the process... So, maybe u can redirect the anger to the guys who didn't read the email outlining the 2 files???

Catcha

Gutter

gutterman 'hope you could tell us wich site have both version. I think that quakers don't play

for the music but just for the fun.

There's is actually a version without the music. Don't know why this site doesn't have both versions...

I do actually think that this map has very good gameplay (and music =) ).

err i meant the entrances to the flag

trunks, if thats the case why didnt he offer the music file as seperate download or seperate pak without the music? some people are on dialup unfortunately, making them wait for a 9 meg file just for the music isnt too great.

I didnt have much probs with the map...the flag not returning when dropped in the lava really sucked ass. the entrances to the map was cool but the 2fort likeness just kept screaming at me...its been done so many times.

Bumping a map's size up to 9 meg just by adding music to it is almost that bad.

I come here for maps, if I want music I'll crank Napster up ffs.

I dont think you should be ragging on the guy for trying to add something different. if its too big a download for you, quit your bitching and get a better connection. if you dont like the music, turn off the sound. if you don't like the map, don't play it. he shouldn't be berated for encluding 3rd party music. he was trying to ADD something to it, and you people seem to be acting like he kicked you in the nuts and stole your girlfriend.

Hey, I love 3rd party music. I just unpack the .pk3, and replace the original sound file with a Beastie Boys song or something. Nothing like frag’n to “High Plains Drifter.” Note that I am not defending this map.

I think it is lame to release some music that takes up 8 gigs. I personally am not a big fan of music in DM's, so I'm not wasting my time Dling this shit.

Well, for anyone that does play with music... the music here is pretty good (unless you just don't like this "type" of music). It's the first in-game music I've heard in a third-party Q3 map that wasn't actively annoying.

The map itself does have some problems, especially with texturing. It's functional though and has a different take on the two-bases topology. The only major gameplay problem I noticed in a quick run was that the flag does not return if you drop it in the lava.

I play with music. It gets me into the "mood". but I probably wont download this because of the music because I prefer the original id music. Plus I only download the maps that get the REALLY good review, but still no servers play them .. why ... why?

gutterman your map seems to be ok but could make a a new version without the music file