Great map, and great game (best ever for me). How much i would like to see all old friends from gifford server

Damn, <noob>pall, I don't even know how I found this page... Nostalgia, I guess? Anyway it brings lots of good memories from the good old times on Quake III Demo. Thanks for your very special credit about me ;-)

I think it could've been a good map if the original lightmap was preserved & the textures for the weapon spawns were changed to the texture used by the rest of the 2nd floor platforms... And if the rail/shotgun clips were deleted off the level, or replaced with rocket launchers (& rockets) themselves...

This is a map for PRO'S ONLY

shadow are for causal moron's

btw, i am on this serverright now, i also play(ed) this rules, i guess every skilled player does:)

just found this website after i was looking for the old demo uk server for quake 3 demo wich is still on but nobody seems to play

I'll try and make a better version of this map complete with lights and bot support.
EDIT: I have a patch file for this map available at the main page for this map.
Edited 35.38 days after the original posting.

Lighting is an essential part of mappings. Leave out the lights and shadows, and your left with a bland looking map that no-one wants to play... Who cares about architecture if you cant define one brush from another.

Ty all!
I dont care about light becoz I dont need it in the map. I want to play on this map and not take walks. Same is about pro-q3dm7. (search for it here) In any case you guys are free to make any not physical changes you want.
If I will buy server to play it will run both maps, so that noobs from demo will have fun in 1.32 version:)

The lighting stage of the compiler crashed or was never run?!
Either way there's no shadows and the fact that it's just based off the q3dm17 .map file that was released is bad enough.
Do NOT make any more q3dm17 remix's... the map was never good to begin with just let it go. Please.

This better be the last dm17 version or I'll kill myself.

By the way - ammo boxes its like history for me. Thats why I left them attheir places.

{DEMO}LITION, thank you for review!

I played dm17 wiht these rules. Its cool. Its always was a problem to make others use these rules. NOw things are different.
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