pindm2 by Pinball (pindm2) | 49 comments

Added: 15 Jul 2000

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raspatan

3 Dec 2020 #49

This map has too many comments for what it is. But I must confess I had a big laugh reading them. Poor Pinball. They really trashed the map. And to be honest, deserved. This is terrible stuff.
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FragTastic

26 Oct 2012 #48

@Rebmarine (SW12): Hmm interesting because I thought that it was a harsh rating but now I understand since you told me ;).

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KommissarReb (SW12)

26 Oct 2012 #47

@FragTastic: Well, for a Cranky Steve Review, the -26 is considerably generous. The meter goes from 0 to -50. This apparently is what they consider one of the better of the bad maps, while most other range typically between the -30's and the -40's.

That aside, I think this map would be ideal for a mod that plays like a 1st person version of Pinball. I play the game Adventure Pinball which I loved playing ever since I was 4 that has graphics very similar to that of the Quake III Engine, but it has an overhead view (expect for some cinematics) instead.

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FragTastic

26 Oct 2012 #46

@Rebmarine (SW12): I think they are quite harsh on the author. The Author did put a lot of effor tin the map as it is his/her's first map. I totally disagree with the - 26. I would give it a 5 to 10 Maximum.

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KommissarReb (SW12)

17 Jul 2012 #45

This map got a -26 on Cranky Steve --> www.somethingawful...ranky/index.php

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FragTastic

6 Feb 2012 #44

Difficult platforms where you can barely stand on them with Bot support and weapons. Its fun and challenging although textures let me down

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pinball

12 Apr 2009 #43

Decided to goolge my old map when I was talking to a guy about map making. I gotta say, WOW. 42 comments,mostly bad ones but still :)
I was 14 at the time, had notthing to do, I found mapping quite fun so I made pindm1 (never released) and pindm2
I'ts fun see my bad map Is still alive out there.
I would like to add one thing to my defence, well more like correct some ppl that complained about the lighting. like 99% of hardcore players never play with any real graphic anyway so I thought why bother at all to balance the lighting.

Aw man getting all nostalgic thinking back. Good times.. good times.

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foksie

17 Feb 2008 #42

One of the best map comments ive ever seen :)

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Anonymous

14 Jan 2007 #41

how to don't encourage ppl... '-.- my first map was uglier than this... SpaceChamber was a failure... (now i'm improving it :) )

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Captain_WoW

25 Dec 2006 #40

I'm so glad cranky steve's site is still around. The review of this "thing" is gold.

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Bionic Gerbil

14 Apr 2005 #39

hey reptile, maybe you are right after all...

you just saved Pinball's rep!

oh I wonder if Pinball ever read those...
hope he isn't too depressed

I am still curious about Pindm1 btw

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Nitebeat

27 Sep 2002 #38

0_° this "map" is ghey.

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XcaLiBuR{hWm}

10 Dec 2001 #37

there is a simple reason no1 likes this map ..... for vanilla quake 3, it sucks ASS. It's boring, stupid, and too large for its own, simple, useless good.

HOWEVER, as an Excessive sparring chamber, it is unbeatable! quad, largeness, and nowhere to hide is all you need for an awesome online or anti-bot fragging experience! it's great!!!

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Reptile

21 Apr 2001 #36

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Reptile

21 Apr 2001 #35

I dont know this map.

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Bionic Gerbil

6 Oct 2000 #34

You know, I still am laughing at the reviews since last time. He shoulda been a humor guy. Would have better success than mapping I suppose.

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StH

14 Sep 2000 #33

hey i've gotta admit this map is absolutely the most entertaining thing i've seen all day. i've downloaded over 50 maps today, but this one was a real stand out. i mean, where else could i bust a gut laughing at someone else's useless and retarded creations? keep the good jokes coming!

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Drew J

8 Aug 2000 #32

Yuma-yuma.....I need to listen to my elders next time; I hear Pac-man 2000 needs map-makers.....

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Quebus

7 Aug 2000 #31

Yes I watch "Survivor" and after reading these comments, yes I downloaded this map (it's a sad commentary really). It kind of reminds me of modern art (not the good part just the, "WTF is this?!" and the "I could have done this!" part). I laughed, I cried and I puked!

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Bionic Gerbil

25 Jul 2000 #30

I finally made it to the BFG.

I never made it back down.

5:04 Kill: 0 0 20: ^6Bionic ^2Gerbil killed ^6Bionic ^2Gerbil by MOD_SUICIDE

I should have a map posted here on lvl beta, I am waiting for my account to be activated. Check it out when it goes online. I'll try to not, quote: "completely ignore the standards of performance set by others." as Zarathustra so well put it. Or at least, if I make a "silly" map, I'll try to rate it as such from the start!

Later,
BG

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Zarathustra

24 Jul 2000 #29

My name has been used. ;)

It is true that some of the maps out there have been made by very young people. I suppose in a perfect world we might have "junior" and "senior" mapping categories so we don't wind up being unnecessarily cruel to little kids who are taking their first creative steps.

On the other hand, older folks should know better. Read reviews of films, plays and games in the mainstream media. You'll find that when a very bad performance is given, the critics don't pull many punches. They draw comparisons to the best in the genre and put the performance in historical context and judge accordingly.

If you are going to release a map to the public, you should be mature enough to take a beating if you completely ignore the standards of performance set by others.

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Bionic Gerbil

24 Jul 2000 #28

Alright. I figured, the guy tried to make a map and share it so why is everyone so cruel?
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Quote: "Lisense:
you may publish tis map on your homepage ore any other page
butt only if you give all credids to Id and me O O
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butt what comes out of a ".aas", butt files? even the smiley in the readme was offset, or either all pissed off!

I was crying so much I was laughing from reading the critics and I still had not even played the map yet! Zarathustra started my laughter with quote: "Hmmmmm. This is pindm2. I wonder what pindm1 was like. ;)"

I just registered to submit beta maps, and the critics may not be any better than the ones this map got, but I have to admit that I either miss the author's point, or else he missed the point at mapping. Even "test_bigbox" has a more pertinent gameplay. I thought maybe I can understand the idea even tho many missed it, but on this I have to jump off a bridge with the masses.

Do you think the author killed himself after reading all those reviews? My idea is that the 14 y/o just wanted to be accepted in the Q3A community. yes? Or some guy just figured he would tease us all by doing this? no?

I just don't see a conscious mapper experimenting here...

Sorry for making fun too somehow, but I do believe that the overall idea could have been a pretext for an attempt of some kind, but this map cannot be taken seriously. Yet I will attempt to play it with as many people as I can find on my next LAN game.

By the way, I did not find the BFG, so I won't run out of ammo.

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BigFreakinGun

22 Jul 2000 #27

another waste of LvL's time, and mine.

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FooL

22 Jul 2000 #26

Actually, this map was un-playable on my computer it was so framey. I have a PII 350 192 MB RAM and a VooDoo3 3000. I know it's not impressive, but I have no problems with normal maps. It felt like I had a 350 ping online at points.

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Virtual Prophet

22 Jul 2000 #25

I think this level could be a good test actually. I was planning on writing a random map generating program that would create levels like this: rooms with many obstacles in them to hide behind but I decided against it because I thought the zbuffer overdraw would be too great. I'd be interested to know if people found this map running relatively slowly. if not then I think it would be good to incorporate this obstacle idea into many maps.

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FooL

21 Jul 2000 #24

Octovus: I believe the map you are thinking of is called "Pure Skillz" by Hijinks. That was definately a keeper. Still on the hard drive. It never ceases to give a good game. Doom on Nightmare! Ownz that map.

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Castle

21 Jul 2000 #23

Thanks
thats just my point
LVL should not be cranky steves
I expect reviews of at least things that can be called maps!
And I didnt download it
I just looked at the review and the pic made me laugh.
Im not having any luck getting my maps up any place on the net. even file planet ignored me a couple times ..

This map got a review!!?
WHat the hell am I doing wrong!?

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Octovus

21 Jul 2000 #22

Castle, yeah your maps are good, when I finally managed to download one of them (and I'm not blaming anyone for download problems, just stating a fact).

And yes, this is total nothingness, this map. But how would you feel if you sent in a map to LvL, never got any feedback from them, and it was never posted? Anyone can say "Well my map isn't this bad."

I believe you. FFS I have made better maps than this, and all of my maps but one would be defined as a "box-map".

Only one box map (sorry I can't remember the name...when you went into the wrong place, you were transported to a green slime filled room?) that's been on LvL is worth playing.

If you are mapping for fun with friends, and none of you can really map, keep it between you as friends. My {QsRu} buddies and I do that all the time. Don't send it to sites like LvL. They shouldn't have to filter through the submissions they get and trash the worthless ones.

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Spram

20 Jul 2000 #21

Monstro: That's not Spanish, but it sounds like it...maybe its portugese or another spanish like basque or catalanish.

I'm gonna download the map.. hee hee.

BTW: Castles, check out the map queue on this page to see if your maps are there, sometimes they take time.

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MONSTRO!

20 Jul 2000 #20

I keep telling you people:

Esta correspondencia del rectángulo parece terrible. El poste del don;t asocia por favor como esto en este sitio porque apenas lo estorban para arriba y parecen tremendos.

This is the last time I expect to have to say that

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MONSTRO!

20 Jul 2000 #19

Zea, nost a polarizes va owing to EN yasmat. EN polarizes animals esmit larenz

Looks like Spanish

"This work is Owing to Yasmat"

Perhaps the author took some advice from this Yasmat guy whn building his map. Hmmmmm.

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not entered

20 Jul 2000 #18

castle you're an idiot, dont bitch that lvl sucks and all the maps you download are complete crap, try reading the reviews first, he said "Do NOT download this map", you're the idiot for downloading it.

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ShadowGod

20 Jul 2000 #17

It's like passing a horrible car accident, you have to slow down and take a look.

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dyeziac

20 Jul 2000 #16

Hmm... 113 downloads, can't people tell by the screenshot it's total crap?

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Castle

20 Jul 2000 #15

WTF is this man?

I have tried many times to get my 4 well made maps on this fucking sight and I come here to see that instead of the maps I worked hard on there is crap like this...

What the fucking hell?

Is the fucking Reviewer doing his own maps now just for kicks?

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not entered

20 Jul 2000 #14

more trash filling lvl. shame.

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4Fuxache

19 Jul 2000 #13

Ive seen better maps in Wolf3d

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FooL

19 Jul 2000 #12

You know, I toyed with the idea of making maps back in the hay-day of Q2. I made a map similar to this. I had all kinds of crap in there. Floating boxes with no textures, bridges where there was no water, and 3-4 kinds of EVERY monster Q2 could throw at you. BUT>>>>>the only other person that saw it in the world was my best friend. There was a reason for that. Anyway. At first I was wondering why there was a Quad in a level this size and then I realized the author was actually throwing in a little strategy. (grin) Want to know how to OWN this level....here it is. Grab all 10 boxes of BFG ammo while the quad is regening. Then grab the quad and rocket jump up to the little hole in the roof to get the BFG. Then unload on full auto. (You will NOT run out of BFG ammo.) HAHAHAHAHAA.

This isn't even a map and it's scored as such. 0 outta 10

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Spram

19 Jul 2000 #11

I'm a bilingual foreigner, but when I meet a trilingual person I get sooo envious. I want to learn German, french or Japanese.

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Slater

19 Jul 2000 #10

I will take the reviewers advice and not download this map. :)

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Keith P. aka * Krafter*

19 Jul 2000 #9

Sorry I never took the advice of the map reveiwer." Do not download this map" heh What a freaking waste of disc space.

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Rob

19 Jul 2000 #8

i ran serendipity's post through alta vista's translator. i realize the post is probably swedish, but the closest they had was german to english:

Zea, nost a polarizes va owing to EN yasmat. EN polarizes animals esmit larenz

something about owing polarized animals? hmmm...

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pUq3

19 Jul 2000 #7

Tigger = Cranky Steve??

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snickelfritz

19 Jul 2000 #6

This is a fantastic map!

I especially liked the limited textureset and dramatic lighting and OMFG the curvework is absolutely incredible!

The readme seems to indicate that English is a second language for the author.(I have a lot of respect for you bilingual foreigners)

This map is definitely a keeper, far surpassing "Ancient Archepelago" and "Andronicus"

Seriously though, did this REALLY take all of 30 minutes to construct?

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Zarathustra

19 Jul 2000 #5

I recommend reading the readme.txt file for an interesting excursion into the mind of the author.

I especially like the part that says:

"...the big difrence of this map is that the items, weapons and ammo are all over the
map so you cant miss it."

No disagreement here. ;)

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not entered

19 Jul 2000 #4

Where are you from Serendipity - blinking Pluto, speaked da english.

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Zarathustra

19 Jul 2000 #3

Hmmmmm. This is pindm2. I wonder what pindm1 was like. ;)

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$//33D|$h

19 Jul 2000 #2

"Lets build a map - that can't be too hard. Wow, I made a box, cool. Now I'll add some items - this is cool, I'll add more! and some MORE!! I should try and make it a bit more interesting, I'll place some vertical walls at strange angles - cool, thats working now. But hang on, i've only used two texture, what's this quake3arena texture - I'll make a long strip of that - cool!"

LOL, couldn't have said it better, Im sure that was whathappened, but hey, I have NO ROOM to talk, I have never attempted a Q3a map before, Iand I COULD NEVER EVER, EVER do this bad, HAH!

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Serendipity

19 Jul 2000 #1

Zea, nost a polt va dank en yasmat. Tiere polt en esmit larenz = 4

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