I had a problem with this level in Spearmint, similar to the one that @Kyall had mentioned. This map seems to have a conflict with this source port, as when I play through it, almost no bots spawn.

I joined the blue team and attempted to add 3 bots to my team and 4 to the read one. The bots showed in the leader table, but did not succeed to spawn properly, because there were only cycled spawning sounds around the ground parts right under the pipes. I could only see one bot camping in the area near the bridges (he didn't reappear after I killed him) and one of my teammate bots camping near the lava area.

Also in Spearmint, I get stuck after teleporting through certain pipes, more precisely through the lateral ones near the bridges, and cannot step anywhere no more. I can go through every other pipe without any technical circumstances.

Therefore, it seems to be an issue with spawning and teleporting in general. Maybe bots and players get stuck into each other and cannot be telefragged because of the impulses that the pipes give them.

It works just fine for me with Vanilla, no visible technical problems, except the bots in both teams just only move around their bases appropriately.

Pen-Pen's Mario maps are better to be honest.

Pretty awesome map, probably my favourite of the Mario themed ones I've seen, but unfortunately bots don't often go anywhere outside of the room they are already in. Also, the pipes were glitchy for me.
Edit: Anyone else have the issue with the glitchy pipes? I went through one of them and it put me in some kind of never ending vortex. At first I thought it was part of the design, and it did look pretty cool, but it didn't seem to come out of it. Honestly one of the weirdest glitches I've seen on this game.
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The one and only problem with this map is that bot play really sucked. You need to know to make bot routes. I played this with the HUNT mod, and it was better. Fighting Marios, Luigis, and Warios. This map could have been a lot better than it is in its current state.

2/5
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@ghastly_dragon lol, you're so stupid! you have a slow connection, haha! i have a speedy connection, weee
about map: i prefer the other mario map, this isn't realy great at all :(

No copiright trouble cause map is FREE '-.-

I love this map, but the lack of bot play kinda ruined it for me. I dont pretend to know a whole lot about Quake 3 mapping, but can you make the warp pipes like another model for the standard teleporter so the bots recognize it? And fix the weapons in such a way that the bots get them?

If you can, then thank you so much, I would really like to play this map with really good bots, since I can't play Q3 online (stupid Dial-up connection)

This map pretty much sums up why I quit smoking pot.

AHAHAHA! Oh My God! This was such a cool map! The bots work fine, I dont know what everyones bitchin about. They REALLY know where to go. Well, I DID have them all on nightmare. Anyways, Johnboy, I hope to see this high calibur kind of map again! It really took me back. Remember King Koopa, those damned owls, and WHO CAN FORGET those hammer bros? This really had none of that but it was fun. I think everyones tired of gothic/castle/space maps. How about a desert map, or a map thats CTF in an underwater base, or even an upsidedown map? This is great, fun, and orginal. Johnny, how bout next time you ummm, have less errors :)

Bah! Copyrights? Why would the author get in trouble by doing this? He's not winning any money of it. Anyway, Nintendo wouldn't waste it's time sueing him. Anyway, lets hope Johnny Death makes another Mario level, it's awesome. Really original, not another gothic palace.

I stopped liking kiddy looking games a long time ago but hey this is a frag fested mario! Mario is back! This is an online style game. The bots were dumb and they had no idea where to go. gunt from blue team was the only one who knew where to go ..he just couldnt make it to the flag. He would hang around the flag but he never even tried. NICE MUSIC it took me back. 6/10

odd- its been about 10 years since I played that wacky Mario game (wow games sure have evolved since then)- I had forgotten those sounds until I heard them again- even that weird music.

This map is more for exploring and having fun with for a few minutes but doesn't really make a good CTF. It was just too awkward for organized teamplay- maybe somehting similar in free-for-all.

Johnny Death I hope you don't get sued by Nintendo-haha!

Quite cool map, but the textures could be nicer.

Looks like a 7 then.

I was able to "spectate" and check out the map (very cool) but I cannot play (same as hi's comments below). This is NOT because I am loading it as a DM map. Even as a CTF, when I join a team the errors start piling up and I do not spawn. FYI, I'm on a Mac G4, if that matters.

You forgot to say "Happy Fraggin!"

=P

Tx Johnny, will do. I just always landed in the lava. =P

Came bye this page and I see that everybody takes my comment to seriously i'm just saying this because it's true take it easy everybody come on!!!

No...my insane work buddies... they are all cool

heh.. Bob Barker == Broke == Johnny Death?

Jonhnny Pleaseeeeeee make a Mega Man Map!!!!!

since when do u people work for nintendo, are the copy rights laws your problem?NO!! relax and have fun!

PS-my punctuation is fine

-Big D

Snakes are good.....so are bikes

If you wrote a bad review...I HATE YOU....If you wrote a good review....I HATE YOU. MARIO RULESSSSSSSSS....THANK YOU JOHNNY DEATH THANK YOU THANK YOU>>>GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I agree with broke....and for all of you people that complain about the bots...quit sitting around and watching hee haw and get some real friends to play with...for god sakes if mario bros had this much blood in it I would play it all the time

This map is the best map i have ever played and they should give johnny death the award for best recreation of a mario brothers map for quake. I havent played the french guys map but im sure its terrible. As is french food. Except the bread...yum. JOhnny Death is a damn prodigy when it comes to making a super mario brothers map. Praise him you doubting fools....PRAISE HIM!!!!

By the way Octovus, rocket jump to hit star block for serious power-ups. Star block respawns after 3 minutes.

Took forever for this map to get reviewed. Never heard of that other map by the french guy till after I had sent this map to be reviewed. The whole map came to be after playing around with Radiant and thinking of cool map tricks. I first had a map with a cannon that shot you out with a BOOM! Then some more playing brought about the green pipe in mario bros. I thought it was neat so I constructed a map over the weekend. Now about the bot problem... There is no way to tell a bot how to use the pipes and blocks. They sit there stupid because they can't detect a path to their objective... the flag. Oh well. Play against humans its pretty fun. If anyone wants the map file to fix stuff up let me know.

Tired of useless bots! It's a 0!

Another thing... on the failure to find a spawn point, it has to do with the compilation of the map being for CTF only and no DM. Pain in the ass if you ask me.

Sorry about the accusation of plagarism(I think that is the correct term). I hadn't yet actually played this map. I just assumed b/c it seems from his comment to Sir Frags A Lot made him seem to be quite a rude person. Again I'm assuming that "..." is Johnny Death because "..." seemed to take it a bit personally.

I tried to load the map and it says "Error: couldn't find a spawn point" and it gets errors saying the shaders for the map are missing.. anyone else have that problem?

I came into this map not sure what to expect. I explored around and found myself thinking "Cool man, if you hit those blocks you get weapons, the classice green pipes, and even Bowser versus Mario!" I added bots. I felt like blowing my head off. They knew how to get the weapons inside the blocks, which was a good thing. But omg other than that they were RETARDED. In the middle area, they didn't know that haste block existed or something, because they would just walk up to it, slide to the side and fall off! And then they would stand on those green warp pipes bouncing till they were either fragged or teleported into. And le piece de resistence (excuse my french) they picked up the flag (joy of joys, I was sceptical as to whether they would) and voila they f@#$ing STOOD THERE! Still no offense Johnny D., very kwl idea and yeah Sir Frags A Lot has the right to say that with no one bitching but you can just ignore him. (Heheh j/k!). A 8 for the map, nice idea, good music (it changed suitably from room to room) warp pipes, the blocks thing was cool, etc. A 1 or 2 for the bots. They were only a little better than not having bots at all imo. So I worked it out to a 5 overall. One final thing...whats with the star block in the lava area? I couldnt reach it...my guess is thats intended and it is a trick, just wondering if thats true. Keep it up, if you really have trouble with bots find someone to do them for you.

Happy Fraggin! Octovus

I've heard of copyright laws. Have you ever heard of punctuation? I don't really care about the looks of a map much, it's mostly gameplay that interests me. If you are like me, don't download this map.

Steal what!? for christ sake's man its Mario Bros! its not like its an original idea to begin with! who gives a FK

its fun!

-Big D

[NRD]10sun: Coincedently we were sent another Mario map last night after we had already posted this one. The mappers name is Pen-Pen (Baptiste Ossola)so this may be the French Mario map you've seen. In which case these two maps only share the same inspiration. The sounds, style and detailing are completely different. The shame of it is they both have the same pk3 and bsp names. We'll put it up soon and you can see for yourself.

... you shut the hell up i'm just telling the truth and nothing but the truth so help me god.

Wow! Remember that little bit about people bitching when other people rip off their maps? Seems like Johnny Death has ripped someone else off. As I recall a Frenchman made this very map at least a month ago and the link was posted from several other Quake3 community news boards. Way to go Johnny, you can steal from others!

Shut up Sir "Fags" A lot.

A little lacking in some area's, but the nostolgia factor makes this a great and fun map! screw copy right laws this map is fun! its nice to see a map that doesnt take itself quite so seriously, yeah the bots do have problems on this map :o(

-Big D

First off ever heard of copyright laws because these things are things of nintendo second the bots sux get the flag and they stand like dodo's the only thing that kept me in this level some time was enviroment just cheking how everything looked so a 6 i'm in a good mood