It never seems to me that maps from single-player games work very well in competitive games. Especially 1v1. The goals are simply different.

While this map is a novelty, and perhaps a wonderful conversion from Q1, IMO it does not suit competitive play at all.

Well, I liked it.

Not good, it´s a straight bsp-conversion, resulting in wrong scaling, and the textures look way to blurry.

GREAT job!! I absolutely LOVE this conversion!

This is just one the best conversions i´ve seen.

I´ve tried it on a lan(with some QW bastards)

& it was great fun. But i agree about the timing on the platforms, they´re maybe to fast.

very good job

I didn't see any porblems that bots had with buttons? they seemed to press them just fine, even dropped me in the lava a few times. they never go for the mega health or grenage launcher tho

A conversion of The Edge and Warehouse from Q2 have been done already, look for q2toq3.zip

nice map conversion but i felt it could and should have beeen improved from the original

just a few little changes to make it better

How good this level is depends on what shizbaz was supposed to be doing.

Compared to the other conversions out there, this is one of the better ones. But the timing on the floor opening and the moving platform to the GL are way too fast.

This is the most bot unfriendly level I have played for Q3A. The bots don't seem to understand buttons; Ranger kept trying to get the Red Armor without hitting the button. They also don't go for Quad or the grenade launcher or the yellow armor. They only stay in the plasma gun (formerly Nail gun) and rocket launcher areas. It's super easy to control the megahealth and the armors, and with Quad on top of that, Nightmare bots just fux0r up all the time. The bots like hot tubs too it seems, hehe.

But if you can forget about the bots, and if this wasn't thought of as a conversion but as any other Q3A level, it's a friggin' blast with some friends.

I really liked the level, shizbaz. :-)

To essobie: Don't worry you don't have to puke your guts out. I released it I guess just to release it..not because 'someone else would anyway'. Probably the crack I was smoking at the time didn't help either. The map isn't perfect and I take absolutely no credit for it since I didn't make it.

As for ra3....

Cheers!

Umm :D oh the level

I havent played it.

g:D

yeah but your still talking about it

to gosh: I didn't download it.

to shizbaz: I'm not worked up about it... I'm just wondering why converting old maps is fun for a map maker that obviously has some talent (this is going on the trust that you did indeed do this conversion from nothing).

To me, the pure fun aspect of "seeing if it could be done" is fine... but why release it?

If you say "because someone else would have done it anyway" I'm gonna puke my guts out. :)

I'm really waiting for someone to make a REAL "fake" ra3 map (you know... with the weapon/ammo/armor entities tied to spawn points, g_gametype set to 1, fraglimit set to 1, g_warmup set to 5). So far nothing but ra1 maps out there like that. Please... no more of the bisymetrical rocketdancing arenaX clones.

Essobie

I had the idea to do the

edge a couple months ago but

i felt if i couldnt do the OG

justice. Maybe in the future.

Look for my map stalkyardq3

soon right here on LvL.

I LOVE OLD MAPS!!!!!!

the old maps that neva die even after playing them a million times u still come back 4 more

ok i sorta have a map request now can sum1 please make q2dm1 "THE EDGE" that map kicked ass!!!!!

well thats all i gotta say :)

oh 1 more thing if u dont like converted maps just dont play them its thats simple :)

Simply because it is fun! I don't understand why everyone makes such a big deal out of this! Personally, I like playing conversions of old maps. A couple of years ago I had a blast playing converted Q1 maps on Q2! I'm very anxious to play this map as it will be the first conversion of an old map that I've played on Q3. It's a map that I'm familiar with and yet I'll be able to play it with the feel of Q3. Thanks Shizbaz! I'll let you know how much I like it after I play it. The screenshot is incredibly true to the original!

This map is cool, even though i didn't really like the original...

BTW, to all American dewds: QUAKE 2 SUX!! Play Quake 1 or Arena or something, just don't do Quake 2 :)

thanks for making this map!

You've made an oldtimer very happy...

The ideea of a remake is good, but the remake itself isn't that good. The corridors are tighter, the platforms over the lava are different, the lighting is sometimes weird... anyway, nice try and i hope to see dm4 soon!

Im not into conversions or converted maps because I like playing new stuff but you did a good job.

my my my if you don't like conversions just don't download it. I thought it was cool to see a great old map revived its not like shizbaz was pretending it was an original.

I played the level twice, and I personally didn't like pushing the buttons on the walls (and it got irritating the second time around)--although I did like the button implemented in Q3DM7 which allows access to the basement.

I just got into FPS games, and I'm sure that the old quake games are fun, but the textures used in this map don't appeal to me all. These are just my preferences. Thank you very much, and I will be looking forward to playing your upcoming maps.

Hrmm..people sure do get worked up about stuff. Oh well. I did the conversion out of pure fun and just to see if it could be done without using one of the converters that are floating out there. I pretty much knew that people wouldn't like it and would start crying about unoriginality, legality, etc..

Mabye I will take some of my uncreativeness and lack of skills and put it towards the RA3 map that I am working on.

Mabye even include the dm2 conversion as a pickup! TeeHee

-ian

A big 3D model would have looked good in the main room.

Essobie is correct: www.quake3world.co...TML/000312.html

You know....these things wouldn't bother me so much..if it was kinda the same layout but used the actual quake3 textures and quake3 engines capabilities.....I can't stand true conversions.........like the jesus you see on the wall there.....wouldn't that have been a perfect place for the one quake3 offers?.....if I wanted to play the original...I'll just go play quake1......

I don't understand it... I thought that id Software made it quite clear that level conversions of original maps (especially cross engine [quake 1 to quake 3]) were QUITE illegal to make.

Was I wrong?

And on a none legal note, why do people insist on playing new versions of old maps?

Essobie